if NOBODY is gay in ocean’s 8 i will physically lose my SHIT. you are gonna collect 8 WOMEN CRIMINALS/MATERMINDS and tell me NONE OF THEM ARE GAY? NONE of them fall in love with each other? PREPOSTEROUS. there aren’t enough smart straights to pull off such elaborate schemes. you need a lesbian or two in there or else NOTHING will work! common sense.
i think oceans 8 looks dykey & great but it’s worth noting all the white protagonists are upper class professionals and all the women of color protagonists are……street conman! jewlery bootlegger! hacker but like the kind that lives in a shitty apartment! and that’s it. Women-fronted movies have long been having issues with racial dynamics let’s try to change that yes thanks
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the women of color are just as professional in their fields as the white women. the white women are just as criminal as the woc. judging from the trailer, three of them got their upper class lives from stealing. one of them (helena bonham carter) seems like a ditz. none of these women are respectable, ethically speaking.
a majority of woc are poor in real life. we live in shitty apartments. we work shitty jobs. sometimes it do be like that.
donna meagle, a character in parks and rec, was portrayed as a rich, boujee, sophisticated woman. she was secretive and sexy, she was shown to be desired by all sorts of conventionally attractive men. she was played by Retta; a fat, dark skinned black woman. people complained about how her character was unrealistic and didn’t portray the lives of black women accurately. there’s no one role/character that can accurately portray the lives of women of color. this is a fantastic start.
this movie looks great, like you said. it represents women of color. we are starving for representation. and here we are, represented. this is great. please watch this movie.
this movie cannot flop. misogynists are rooting for this to fail. they want female-led action movies to stop being a thing. remember ghostbusters?
the lack women in STEM has been an issue for years now. the lack of woc specifically in STEM is also a problem that doesn’t get talked about as much because it just gets grouped into the issue of “women in STEM”. to see a computer savvy black woman is something new and refreshing.
personally speaking, as an asian woman, i’m thrilled to see an asian woman who is a con artist. what are the expected jobs for asian women in media and society? doctors? nurses? therapists? something dutiful? cosmetologists? masseuses? something sexual? asians are seen as the “model minority”. it’s a stereotype and everyone should know at this point that there’s no such thing as a positive stereotype. to see a cool, street smart asian woman conning people out of money? performing sleight of hand tricks? being a thief? is thrilling tbh
op is white. i’m a woman of color. thought i could share my thoughts.
Those are all really good points. This is actually a really great post as a whole.
OP @benepla is doing a great job, as a white person, to be instantly critical and suspicious about the respectful portrayal of WOC, and @tachypneic (and most importantly her perspective and reassurance) is so important because she has the intracommunity perspective to offer that analysis.
Anyway, I’m way more reassured feeling about this after seeing both of these comments on it so close to each other like this.
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